Lol not at all difficult I really do appreciate all the input, more then techs at Verizon can give. He did un-register us all and still nothing, I just sent admin a request for the logs, I never thought of that thxs. I really have done everything tracert, ping, re-install, port forward, static etc. Admin when spoke with him and he unregistered us still claims only issue is with FIOS members.
I had my son take a lap top over to a friends home after speaking with tech, claimed its the host, he could log in with no issue on the Cox network, it doesn't just work at our home, a few of the others in this region that I have been in contact with can all do the same take it to work, off the Verizon network and no issue. So certificates are not the problem. Just baffles why it works on Cox cable, Comcast and not FIOS.
I believe the provider host is a Hivelocity, will look into it more. I will inquire also about the DNS have heard sometimes this is an issue. Did you use Opendns?
Again thanks for the reply, I seem to have become the rep for the group in this region on getting this resolved.